wwII meeting notes

as archived from page – jan 10, 2009 – vandana

Notes from 1/28/07 Meeting
General Announcements
Sleepover in space/PJ party 24hours
Final Critique
Manifesta-collective
Descriptive statement on labels
“things Mary should never say”
Approach Linda Nochlin to speak at artist talk or write and intro to small catalogue or/Judith Broadlsy, Ophelia, Ferris
“Angry hysterical women” Mira Schor- bad clisches about material is still relevant.
Sachiko-polychrome wood

Jaz
Etching on fabric/electric tealights
Divine and earth coming together
Candles, tealights, large votives
insurance, bulbs, resistor-flickering
water sprinkler
clothesline. sheet? Divine glow
lighting from the back
sacred heart, relics from torn sheets

Alana
Feminist Future
Super 8, solitary revolt, angry act- focus-script
Satire good way to channel anger
BandW TV, projector/Monitor/LCD
renting projector

Francisca
Simplicity w/technology box- drawer-coppertape, grey goose box- metal doors
Found wood
Hingels
Light through holes

Rachael
Dreams about giving birth to a new world
Venus/nude pagan goddess
Pink color we are all comfortable with
Pink for girl-seductive
David Hickey: “On Beauty” from Invisible Dragon

Liz
Finish all three-tweaking
Crochet cotton-thickness/color
Hair extensions
Bigger knitting nancy
Silk cord-dye/paint
Pulling together work on this one
See how all 3 interact

Michelle
3 pairs- possibly 6 pairs-12 stations
Have the stations descrive as point of view of Virgin
Cut up text degrading act
Secular Catholic physical tradition/religion
Text- sexually charged- mother-literal
female/male

Asha
Call for Art-Red Saw Gallery/Vaccume aferro
40 boxes- possibly stained w/plexi tops glass coffin
20 spoons”for action”
20 soap (what will soap look like?)”for words”
wooden spoons/soap
plexiboxes
Spare the Rod, Spoil the God
Each represents more time, more punishment
Mary Kelly- Post partum document
“discipline your god” kits

Jennifer

Floating
Experimenting with thread
Decided on white- like she is being “erased”
Come out of wall- coming towards/going away
Aluminum rods

Eileen
Scaling up the ideas- human scale of hexagon
Tile size
300% makes same size
Some on wall, and one piece more sculptural
Seven bees on the wall
“contagious graphics”- stickers
Dipped in beeswax-encaustic-sew together
Off White paper
Notes from 1/21/07 Meeting

I’m sorry I’m getting these up so late- some of it will probably be irrelevant- but I thought there was a chance that some of it would inject an old perspective as a new idea:

Eileen
Dictionary of Symbolism, Hans Biederman
The Red Tent
Jennifer Bartlett plates/silkscreened graph paper/ grid/text (Art in America)
Line quality- illustration vs. drawing. Straight lines vs hand-drawn
Gocco (sp?) printing- handmaking image
Papers/cloth
Fred Holland- dead bee collection
Beekeeper contact (Liz)
Liz’s family kept bees- photographs
Scale possibilities large handmade paper
Install floor mobile?
3 feet units
Viewer as bee scale
Invitation for public interaction

Liz
The Sacred Gaze
On the Strange Place of Religion in Art, James Elkins
Art world: religious art= kiss of death
Letter to a Christian Nation, Sam Harris
Fluids, hair/milk/tears/sweat
Spiderwoman
Kiki Smith
Hitting the floor?
Brooklyn Museum- scale
(I missed a lot of notes because of our engaging discussion about Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins)

Jennifer
Decapitation in stretching (keep the current decapitation)
Sculptural quality of painting
Feet&hands
Edge/ground flirtation
Prayer card
Color of thread- buff/white/metallic- erasing
Red-blood
Black- darkness

Rachael
Feather bag marble thread connected to belly birth (marble with whirling/world qualities?)
Video
Flattening of gold field
Sacred floating/royal
Black
PS1 James Turrel Gold Exhibition
Opacity of figure
Voluptuousness vs. strength. Both seen.

Francisca
LCD Monitor
Olive oil
Eileen has pew (if needed)
Punctured tin

Alana
Mechanical Brides, Ellen Lupton
Pyrex newer/breaks easier older/thicker
Character vs. artist
Push one way or another
Modern marriage- archival footage
Intentional experiment
Character buys the “housewife” routine
Artist doesn’t
Moment of break- slowing down
Waiting- neighbor spying.
Wringing apron- misuse
Domestic rebel

Michelle
Hans Bellmer
Traditional: Jesus naked
Women more clothed
Contrast contemporary: more clothed men/less clothed women
Porno-crucifixions
Pairing carries naturalness- not literal- feels abstracted
Triptych- others (?)
Costco- $10 color printing
Adorama- A/B 21st & 6th Ave
16×20

Asha
Radio Replies
Call-in questions to priest
Trinidad Coloring books
Erotica Universalis
“Spare the Rod, Spoil the Child”
Physical punishment
Spoon/belt/switch- scale how big is MoG?
How big is the crime?
How big is god?
How severe the punishment?
Soap- wash mouth out- discipline
Ruler switch
Impression on discipline
Interactivity: box can take out
Ass of Styrofoam- strong man/mother contest
Proof of “how strong a mother you are”?
How much food does MoG make?
How much does god eat?

Jaz
National Geographic, current issue
Batik
Mandorla
Body fluids: piss/blood/shit/vaginal discharge
Ourant Figures- catacombs
Goko thing?
Cotton more “feminine” vs. “granny”pregnant
Sewing in crotch piece

1/14/07 Notes:

Here’s another installment of my notes. Again my disclaimer: they are short, and they are things that strike me as important as the dialogue progresses. Feel free to open this post and edit and/or add comments.Asha
(I have more for you, but my notes are elsewhere- mostly they were notes on your work as you described it. I’ll put it in here hopefully tomorrow)
Eileen mentioned a Buddhist butter sculpture in response to edible sculpture
video recommendation: Guillermo Gomez Perez: Body of the Immigrant
Confiscated by customs- life sized jello body copy
Eating body of the immigrant
Jeanine Antoni- Stations of the CrossJennifer
Frightened/intimidated by religion
small stitching- sewing maching tech issues
bright grount
suggestions: hat stitching/software with sewing machine
printing/screenprinting
Megan Klim- Jersey artist: ink in wax- encaustic
sewing into paper
paper ideas: mylar/vellum/tracing paper
cross-stitching: hook rug backing
fabric stores: JoAnn, Talas
Tools: Mechanical awl/ Japanese screw punch

Rachael
Looking at altar pieces.
triptych linen and gold paint
presenting image worship
pose: ecstatic/orgasmic/ethereal/weightless
jesus on the cross/wailing mourning/falling not flying
power in face/brain (?)
St Theresa’s ecstasy (Bernini)
Emotionless-playboy
Dealing with image of women- possibly kitsch maybe blonde
Barbarella
Background may add context: color/celestial/fabric/painting
Change tension in posture
Variations on gender spectrum
Legs together not necessarily just as Christ- but also modesty/propriety
Use the sagan context?
Use video still as opposed to photo still
see A.I.R. Gallery group show
Gestation stage- growing aliens/parasitic growth stage/
Bodies exhibition: South Street Seaport

Michelle Levante
Crown of thorns
Hinging?
Second skin latex layering
Sheeting layers/silicone release paper/cheesecloth with clear gel medium/dntal dam textures
Separating experiments- how images go together vs. skin textures
Stations of the cross
Heresy in meditation so much that you identify
Hydrogen peroxide/saltwater to speed rusting/paint rusting texture
Shellack on latex breaks it down
Ask Pearl Paint about archiving/complete sculptor- VanDam

Liz Seaton
3 Fates
MOG as suggestive of Catholicism
creatrixes/corner relief
Recovering allegory: Guston
Moving past allegory
discussion of meaning in work.
anxiety about literality

Eileen
Lino/Collygraph (sp?)
Hexagons: beehives/chemistry bonding
Tab to open book. Exhibition vs. interaction
Books Boxes and Portfolios Text
Small Pearl screens/Pearl Paint=cheapest/ NY Central=in stock
experiment at _gaia

Jaz
Cheap bought/making panties
Suffering/pleasure red/white wine/water, bread/wine, tears/blood, water/fire
Batik bedsheet
Itallian renaissance Art- geometry/structure/perspective/formulas
Death of Virgin
Triangle in the square
mass produced-sweatshop labor
Was Mary making her own panties?
American Psycho (film) scene of murder
The Bell Jar
Relationship btw bedsheet/panties
Panty vending machines
Anxiety of hymen
Red Tent
Fear: showing sheets
Resewing to experience the hymen.. spinal (?) surgery

Francisca
Highlighting festivity/ 6 inch monitor
Ornate arriving
Lining with tin: soup cans/beer cans
Craft flowers
Image
Viewer as editor/crosscutting
use small text on wall for translation/physical writing? instead of subtitling
Passport imagery
Kitsch: as image/ plastics fetishizing the handmade. outsider viewer defines kitsch
Intention behind relic/oratory items
Handmaking to either minimize or refuse kitsch

Alana
Modern Wife part 2 (was it modern love? did I make that up last week?)
Change of mood
Change of perspective?
Meditation of window scene as opposed to teacup/shoes
b&w will need projection testing
Slow motion/use different camera
B&W vs. Color
Breaking violence/gentle intentional unbinding
Heat up sink in order to have cold water break glass instead of sink.

(Venue options)
Lex Leonard
Grace Church
Library Building
660 Grand
919 Gallery
Stacy Collins house
Gallery space as opposed to alternative space

1/07/07 Notes:

These are very short notes. I just pick up words from the general conversation that strike me as important. Please edit this post with any corrections/additions. You can also add comments if that makes more sense. We’re experimenting here.

Liz Seaton:
Feeling images of the body
Witches/ group feminism
Becoming animal becoming
Faceless bodies
Postural schema
Hair turns to fiber

Rachel Serbinski
Potency/feminism/sexuality
Self-portraiture
Hand stitching
Scale
Missing feet in photos
Censorship re: sagan drawings
Liz had sewing solutions

Alana Kakoyiannis
Wife becoming mother
Pyrex-heated up- cold water
Aprons
‘marriage shock’
Liz: described her own project: Willful misuse of household objects.

Eileen
Bees, Queen/King bee, Fear
Beebook
Hexagon pattern/Rebus
Egyptian embalming- folding out
Options for printing: LES Printshop, Manhattan Graphics, SVA, Art Student’s League (others?)

Francisca
Freedslaves town ritual video
Bottles, sweeping
Alana: mentioned having a relevant video (?)
Presentation: altar/oratory with video inside
Multipanel possibilities?
Context for video

Jasmine
Sacred heart: flames/crown/thorns
Batik sacred heart on sheet, white panties stretched on frame, almond shape around virgin head, black panties/white print- fluids
Sexuality/Femininity of Mother of God
Sacred Heart images: Luis Jimenez/Mexico
Hankerchief
Sheet as shroud, elvis in a donut

Jennifer Carpenter
Disquieting imagery= religious images
Sewing on prayer cards, Ayn Rand pose
Things to think about: presentation/line up/ scale/vertical/ascension, descension/ implication of cross/circle/ tactility/mobility.

Michelle Levante
Algos Botanica (sp?)
Video- peppers/sex/death
Season of Healing
Bark/tree growing over fences
Materiality- beeswax
Varnish
Connectivity/ roots& fencing. Flesh photography added
Plaques for station of cross.
Edging- respond to image?
Quilts/sampling
Healing over trauma
Perfect shellack- wet sanding
Mortification of flesh. Woods of suicide- dante’s inferno

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