{"id":498,"date":"2007-02-01T14:32:38","date_gmt":"2007-02-01T22:32:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gaiastudio.org\/wonderwomen\/?p=498"},"modified":"2009-01-10T14:56:44","modified_gmt":"2009-01-10T22:56:44","slug":"wwiii-meeting-notes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gaiastudio.org\/wonderwomen\/?p=498","title":{"rendered":"wwII meeting notes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>as archived from page &#8211; jan 10, 2009 &#8211; vandana<\/p>\n<p><strong>Notes from 1\/28\/07 Meeting<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>General Announcements<\/em><br \/>\nSleepover in space\/PJ party 24hours<br \/>\nFinal Critique<br \/>\nManifesta-collective<br \/>\nDescriptive statement on labels<br \/>\n\u00e2\u20ac\u0153things Mary should never say\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<br \/>\nApproach Linda Nochlin to speak at artist talk or write and intro to small catalogue or\/Judith Broadlsy, Ophelia, Ferris<br \/>\n\u00e2\u20ac\u0153Angry hysterical women\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Mira Schor- bad clisches about material is still relevant.<br \/>\nSachiko-polychrome wood<\/p>\n<p><em>Jaz<\/em><br \/>\nEtching on fabric\/electric tealights<br \/>\nDivine and earth coming together<br \/>\nCandles, tealights, large votives<br \/>\ninsurance, bulbs, resistor-flickering<br \/>\nwater sprinkler<br \/>\nclothesline. sheet? Divine glow<br \/>\nlighting from the back<br \/>\nsacred heart, relics from torn sheets<\/p>\n<p><em>Alana<\/em><br \/>\nFeminist Future<br \/>\nSuper 8, solitary revolt, angry act- focus-script<br \/>\nSatire good way to channel anger<br \/>\nBandW TV, projector\/Monitor\/LCD<br \/>\nrenting projector<\/p>\n<p>Francisca<br \/>\nSimplicity w\/technology box- drawer-coppertape, grey goose box- metal doors<br \/>\nFound wood<br \/>\nHingels<br \/>\nLight through holes<\/p>\n<p><em>Rachael<\/em><br \/>\nDreams about giving birth to a new world<br \/>\nVenus\/nude pagan goddess<br \/>\nPink color we are all comfortable with<br \/>\nPink for girl-seductive<br \/>\nDavid Hickey: \u00e2\u20ac\u0153On Beauty\u00e2\u20ac\u009d from Invisible Dragon<\/p>\n<p><em>Liz<\/em><br \/>\nFinish all three-tweaking<br \/>\nCrochet cotton-thickness\/color<br \/>\nHair extensions<br \/>\nBigger knitting nancy<br \/>\nSilk cord-dye\/paint<br \/>\nPulling together work on this one<br \/>\nSee how all 3 interact<\/p>\n<p><em>Michelle<\/em><br \/>\n3 pairs- possibly 6 pairs-12 stations<br \/>\nHave the stations descrive as point of view of Virgin<br \/>\nCut up text degrading act<br \/>\nSecular Catholic physical tradition\/religion<br \/>\nText- sexually charged- mother-literal<br \/>\nfemale\/male<\/p>\n<p><em>Asha<\/em><br \/>\nCall for Art-Red Saw Gallery\/Vaccume aferro<br \/>\n40 boxes- possibly stained w\/plexi tops glass coffin<br \/>\n20 spoons&#8221;for action&#8221;<br \/>\n20 soap (what will soap look like?)&#8221;for words&#8221;<br \/>\nwooden spoons\/soap<br \/>\nplexiboxes<br \/>\nSpare the Rod, Spoil the God<br \/>\nEach represents more time, more punishment<br \/>\nMary Kelly- Post partum document<br \/>\n&#8220;discipline your god&#8221; kits<br \/>\n<em><br \/>\nJennifer<\/em><br \/>\nFloating<br \/>\nExperimenting with thread<br \/>\nDecided on white- like she is being &#8220;erased&#8221;<br \/>\nCome out of wall- coming towards\/going away<br \/>\nAluminum rods<\/p>\n<p><em>Eileen<\/em><br \/>\nScaling up the ideas- human scale of hexagon<br \/>\nTile size<br \/>\n300% makes same size<br \/>\nSome on wall, and one piece more sculptural<br \/>\nSeven bees on the wall<br \/>\n&#8220;contagious graphics&#8221;- stickers<br \/>\nDipped in beeswax-encaustic-sew together<br \/>\nOff White paper<br \/>\n<strong>Notes from 1\/21\/07 Meeting<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m sorry I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m getting these up so late- some of it will probably be irrelevant- but I thought there was a chance that some of it would inject an old perspective as a new idea:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Eileen<br \/>\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Dictionary of Symbolism<\/span>, Hans Biederman<br \/>\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">The Red Tent<\/span><br \/>\nJennifer Bartlett plates\/silkscreened graph paper\/ grid\/text (Art in America)<br \/>\nLine quality- illustration vs. drawing.  Straight lines vs hand-drawn<br \/>\nGocco (sp?) printing- handmaking image<br \/>\nPapers\/cloth<br \/>\nFred Holland- dead bee collection<br \/>\nBeekeeper contact (Liz)<br \/>\nLiz&#8217;s family kept bees- photographs<br \/>\nScale possibilities large handmade paper<br \/>\nInstall floor mobile?<br \/>\n3 feet units<br \/>\nViewer as bee scale<br \/>\nInvitation for public interaction<\/p>\n<p>Liz<br \/>\nThe Sacred Gaze<br \/>\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">On the Strange Place of Religion in Art<\/span>, James Elkins<br \/>\nArt world: religious art= kiss of death<br \/>\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Letter to a Christian Nation<\/span>, Sam Harris<br \/>\nFluids, hair\/milk\/tears\/sweat<br \/>\nSpiderwoman<br \/>\nKiki Smith<br \/>\nHitting the floor?<br \/>\nBrooklyn Museum- scale<br \/>\n(I missed a lot of notes because of our engaging discussion about Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins)<\/p>\n<p>Jennifer<br \/>\nDecapitation in stretching (keep the current decapitation)<br \/>\nSculptural quality of painting<br \/>\nFeet&amp;hands<br \/>\nEdge\/ground flirtation<br \/>\nPrayer card<br \/>\nColor of thread- buff\/white\/metallic- erasing<br \/>\nRed-blood<br \/>\nBlack- darkness<\/p>\n<p>Rachael<br \/>\nFeather bag marble thread connected to belly birth (marble with whirling\/world qualities?)<br \/>\nVideo<br \/>\nFlattening of gold field<br \/>\nSacred floating\/royal<br \/>\nBlack<br \/>\nPS1 James Turrel Gold Exhibition<br \/>\nOpacity of figure<br \/>\nVoluptuousness vs. strength.  Both seen.<\/p>\n<p>Francisca<br \/>\nLCD Monitor<br \/>\nOlive oil<br \/>\nEileen has pew (if needed)<br \/>\nPunctured tin<\/p>\n<p>Alana<br \/>\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Mechanical Brides<\/span>, Ellen Lupton<br \/>\nPyrex newer\/breaks easier older\/thicker<br \/>\nCharacter vs. artist<br \/>\nPush one way or another<br \/>\nModern marriage- archival footage<br \/>\nIntentional experiment<br \/>\nCharacter buys the &#8220;housewife&#8221; routine<br \/>\nArtist doesn&#8217;t<br \/>\nMoment of break- slowing down<br \/>\nWaiting- neighbor spying.<br \/>\nWringing apron- misuse<br \/>\nDomestic rebel<\/p>\n<p>Michelle<br \/>\nHans Bellmer<br \/>\nTraditional: Jesus naked<br \/>\nWomen more clothed<br \/>\nContrast contemporary: more clothed men\/less clothed women<br \/>\nPorno-crucifixions<br \/>\nPairing carries naturalness- not literal- feels abstracted<br \/>\nTriptych- others (?)<br \/>\nCostco- $10 color printing<br \/>\nAdorama- A\/B 21st &amp; 6th Ave<br \/>\n16\u00c3\u201420<\/p>\n<p>Asha<br \/>\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Radio Replies<\/span><br \/>\nCall-in questions to priest<br \/>\nTrinidad Coloring books<br \/>\nErotica Universalis<br \/>\n&#8220;Spare the Rod, Spoil the Child&#8221;<br \/>\nPhysical punishment<br \/>\nSpoon\/belt\/switch- scale how big is MoG?<br \/>\nHow big is the crime?<br \/>\nHow big is god?<br \/>\nHow severe the punishment?<br \/>\nSoap- wash mouth out- discipline<br \/>\nRuler switch<br \/>\nImpression on discipline<br \/>\nInteractivity: box can take out<br \/>\nAss of Styrofoam- strong man\/mother contest<br \/>\nProof of &#8220;how strong a mother you are&#8221;?<br \/>\nHow much food does MoG make?<br \/>\nHow much does god eat?<\/p>\n<p>Jaz<br \/>\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">National Geographic<\/span>, current issue<br \/>\nBatik<br \/>\nMandorla<br \/>\nBody fluids: piss\/blood\/shit\/vaginal discharge<br \/>\nOurant Figures- catacombs<br \/>\nGoko thing?<br \/>\nCotton more &#8220;feminine&#8221; vs. &#8220;granny&#8221;pregnant<br \/>\nSewing in crotch piece<\/p>\n<p><strong>1\/14\/07 Notes: <\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"entry\"><strong>Here&#8217;s another installment of my notes. Again my disclaimer: they are short, and they are things that strike me as important as the dialogue progresses. Feel free to open this post and edit and\/or add comments.<\/strong>Asha<br \/>\n(I have more for you, but my notes are elsewhere- mostly they were notes on your work as you described it. I&#8217;ll put it in here hopefully tomorrow)<br \/>\nEileen mentioned a Buddhist butter sculpture in response to edible sculpture<br \/>\nvideo recommendation: Guillermo Gomez Perez: Body of the Immigrant<br \/>\nConfiscated by customs- life sized jello body copy<br \/>\nEating body of the immigrant<br \/>\nJeanine Antoni- Stations of the CrossJennifer<br \/>\nFrightened\/intimidated by religion<br \/>\nsmall stitching- sewing maching tech issues<br \/>\nbright grount<br \/>\nsuggestions: hat stitching\/software with sewing machine<br \/>\nprinting\/screenprinting<br \/>\nMegan Klim- Jersey artist: ink in wax- encaustic<br \/>\nsewing into paper<br \/>\npaper ideas: mylar\/vellum\/tracing paper<br \/>\ncross-stitching: hook rug backing<br \/>\nfabric stores: JoAnn, Talas<br \/>\nTools: Mechanical awl\/ Japanese screw punch<\/p>\n<p>Rachael<br \/>\nLooking at altar pieces.<br \/>\ntriptych linen and gold paint<br \/>\npresenting image worship<br \/>\npose: ecstatic\/orgasmic\/ethereal\/weightless<br \/>\njesus on the cross\/wailing mourning\/falling not flying<br \/>\npower in face\/brain (?)<br \/>\nSt Theresa&#8217;s ecstasy (Bernini)<br \/>\nEmotionless-playboy<br \/>\nDealing with image of women- possibly kitsch maybe blonde<br \/>\nBarbarella<br \/>\nBackground may add context: color\/celestial\/fabric\/painting<br \/>\nChange tension in posture<br \/>\nVariations on gender spectrum<br \/>\nLegs together not necessarily just as Christ- but also modesty\/propriety<br \/>\nUse the sagan context?<br \/>\nUse video still as opposed to photo still<br \/>\nsee A.I.R. Gallery group show<br \/>\nGestation stage- growing aliens\/parasitic growth stage\/<br \/>\nBodies exhibition: South Street Seaport<\/p>\n<p>Michelle Levante<br \/>\nCrown of thorns<br \/>\nHinging?<br \/>\nSecond skin latex layering<br \/>\nSheeting layers\/silicone release paper\/cheesecloth with clear gel medium\/dntal dam textures<br \/>\nSeparating experiments- how images go together vs. skin textures<br \/>\nStations of the cross<br \/>\nHeresy in meditation so much that you identify<br \/>\nHydrogen peroxide\/saltwater to speed rusting\/paint rusting texture<br \/>\nShellack on latex breaks it down<br \/>\nAsk Pearl Paint about archiving\/complete sculptor- VanDam<\/p>\n<p>Liz Seaton<br \/>\n3 Fates<br \/>\nMOG as suggestive of Catholicism<br \/>\ncreatrixes\/corner relief<br \/>\nRecovering allegory: Guston<br \/>\nMoving past allegory<br \/>\ndiscussion of meaning in work.<br \/>\nanxiety about literality<\/p>\n<p>Eileen<br \/>\nLino\/Collygraph (sp?)<br \/>\nHexagons: beehives\/chemistry bonding<br \/>\nTab to open book. Exhibition vs. interaction<br \/>\nBooks Boxes and Portfolios Text<br \/>\nSmall Pearl screens\/Pearl Paint=cheapest\/ NY Central=in stock<br \/>\nexperiment at _gaia<\/p>\n<p>Jaz<br \/>\nCheap bought\/making panties<br \/>\nSuffering\/pleasure red\/white wine\/water, bread\/wine, tears\/blood, water\/fire<br \/>\nBatik bedsheet<br \/>\nItallian renaissance Art- geometry\/structure\/perspective\/formulas<br \/>\nDeath of Virgin<br \/>\nTriangle in the square<br \/>\nmass produced-sweatshop labor<br \/>\nWas Mary making her own panties?<br \/>\nAmerican Psycho (film) scene of murder<br \/>\nThe Bell Jar<br \/>\nRelationship btw bedsheet\/panties<br \/>\nPanty vending machines<br \/>\nAnxiety of hymen<br \/>\nRed Tent<br \/>\nFear: showing sheets<br \/>\nResewing to experience the hymen.. spinal (?) surgery<\/p>\n<p>Francisca<br \/>\nHighlighting festivity\/ 6 inch monitor<br \/>\nOrnate arriving<br \/>\nLining with tin: soup cans\/beer cans<br \/>\nCraft flowers<br \/>\nImage<br \/>\nViewer as editor\/crosscutting<br \/>\nuse small text on wall for translation\/physical writing? instead of subtitling<br \/>\nPassport imagery<br \/>\nKitsch: as image\/ plastics fetishizing the handmade. outsider viewer defines kitsch<br \/>\nIntention behind relic\/oratory items<br \/>\nHandmaking to either minimize or refuse kitsch<\/p>\n<p>Alana<br \/>\nModern Wife part 2 (was it modern love? did I make that up last week?)<br \/>\nChange of mood<br \/>\nChange of perspective?<br \/>\nMeditation of window scene as opposed to teacup\/shoes<br \/>\nb&amp;w will need projection testing<br \/>\nSlow motion\/use different camera<br \/>\nB&amp;W vs. Color<br \/>\nBreaking violence\/gentle intentional unbinding<br \/>\nHeat up sink in order to have cold water break glass instead of sink.<\/p>\n<p>(Venue options)<br \/>\nLex Leonard<br \/>\nGrace Church<br \/>\nLibrary Building<br \/>\n660 Grand<br \/>\n919 Gallery<br \/>\nStacy Collins house<br \/>\nGallery space as opposed to alternative space<\/p>\n<p><strong>1\/07\/07 Notes:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>These are very short notes. I just pick up words from the general conversation that strike me as important. Please edit this post with any corrections\/additions. You can also add comments if that makes more sense. We&#8217;re experimenting here.<\/p>\n<p>Liz Seaton:<br \/>\nFeeling images of the body<br \/>\nWitches\/ group feminism<br \/>\nBecoming animal becoming<br \/>\nFaceless bodies<br \/>\nPostural schema<br \/>\nHair turns to fiber<\/p>\n<p>Rachel Serbinski<br \/>\nPotency\/feminism\/sexuality<br \/>\nSelf-portraiture<br \/>\nHand stitching<br \/>\nScale<br \/>\nMissing feet in photos<br \/>\nCensorship re: sagan drawings<br \/>\nLiz had sewing solutions<\/p>\n<p>Alana Kakoyiannis<br \/>\nWife becoming mother<br \/>\nPyrex-heated up- cold water<br \/>\nAprons<br \/>\n&#8216;marriage shock&#8217;<br \/>\nLiz: described her own project: Willful misuse of household objects.<\/p>\n<p>Eileen<br \/>\nBees, Queen\/King bee, Fear<br \/>\nBeebook<br \/>\nHexagon pattern\/Rebus<br \/>\nEgyptian embalming- folding out<br \/>\nOptions for printing: LES Printshop, Manhattan Graphics, SVA, Art Student&#8217;s League (others?)<\/p>\n<p>Francisca<br \/>\nFreedslaves town ritual video<br \/>\nBottles, sweeping<br \/>\nAlana: mentioned having a relevant video (?)<br \/>\nPresentation: altar\/oratory with video inside<br \/>\nMultipanel possibilities?<br \/>\nContext for video<\/p>\n<p>Jasmine<br \/>\nSacred heart: flames\/crown\/thorns<br \/>\nBatik sacred heart on sheet, white panties stretched on frame, almond shape around virgin head, black panties\/white print- fluids<br \/>\nSexuality\/Femininity of Mother of God<br \/>\nSacred Heart images: Luis Jimenez\/Mexico<br \/>\nHankerchief<br \/>\nSheet as shroud, elvis in a donut<\/p>\n<p>Jennifer Carpenter<br \/>\nDisquieting imagery= religious images<br \/>\nSewing on prayer cards, Ayn Rand pose<br \/>\nThings to think about: presentation\/line up\/ scale\/vertical\/ascension, descension\/ implication of cross\/circle\/ tactility\/mobility.<\/p>\n<p>Michelle Levante<br \/>\nAlgos Botanica (sp?)<br \/>\nVideo- peppers\/sex\/death<br \/>\nSeason of Healing<br \/>\nBark\/tree growing over fences<br \/>\nMateriality- beeswax<br \/>\nVarnish<br \/>\nConnectivity\/ roots&amp; fencing. Flesh photography added<br \/>\nPlaques for station of cross.<br \/>\nEdging- respond to image?<br \/>\nQuilts\/sampling<br \/>\nHealing over trauma<br \/>\nPerfect shellack- wet sanding<br \/>\nMortification of flesh. Woods of suicide- dante&#8217;s inferno<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>as archived from page &#8211; jan 10, 2009 &#8211; vandana Notes from 1\/28\/07 Meeting General Announcements Sleepover in space\/PJ party 24hours Final Critique Manifesta-collective Descriptive statement on labels \u00e2\u20ac\u0153things Mary should never say\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Approach Linda Nochlin to speak at artist &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/gaiastudio.org\/wonderwomen\/?p=498\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[26],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-498","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-wwii-meetingnotes"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/gaiastudio.org\/wonderwomen\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/498","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/gaiastudio.org\/wonderwomen\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/gaiastudio.org\/wonderwomen\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gaiastudio.org\/wonderwomen\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gaiastudio.org\/wonderwomen\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=498"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/gaiastudio.org\/wonderwomen\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/498\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":507,"href":"https:\/\/gaiastudio.org\/wonderwomen\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/498\/revisions\/507"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/gaiastudio.org\/wonderwomen\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=498"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gaiastudio.org\/wonderwomen\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=498"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gaiastudio.org\/wonderwomen\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=498"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}